Sunday, February 1, 2015

Troubleshooting Native Instruments Problems with UltimatePluginTool

There are a number of common problems people encounter with Native Instruments products that are easy to fix once you discover the root cause. Unfortunately, some of the error messages you get when the problems occur are vague or misleading. I wrote UltimatePluginTool to help folks identify and correct these issues. In this article I'll walk you through how to fix the following errors:
  • "Loading Issue: Could not load plug-in" (Komplete Kontrol)
  • "Error: Unable to load Slot" (Maschine)
  • "Load Plug-in: Could not load 1 or more plug-ins!" (Maschine)
  • "Error while reading file: This file was saved with a newer version of Reaktor!" (Reaktor)
  • "This patch was generated by a newer version of the application. Please upgrade your copy to load the patch." (Kontakt)
  • "Loading Issue: Plug-in failed loading. The plug-in is likely too old and needs updating." (Komplete Kontrol)
Note: While this article and UltimatePluginTool are specifically for VST plugins on Windows operating systems, some of the information here may apply to other plugin formats and platforms.

1. Download and install all your Service Center updates

Before we get started with UltimatePluginTool, it will help to make sure that all of your Native Instruments products are activated and up-to-date. Launch the Native Instruments Service Center and make sure you see the "All products are activated" message on the Activate tab. If you don't, go to the Update tab and download/install any pending updates.



Note: It is still possible to get errors about Reaktor and Kontakt instruments being saved with newer versions of those products even after you've installed all your updates. UltimatePluginTool will help you fix those errors if you perform the following steps. You should just be sure you've installed the updates before you proceed.

2. Install and launch UltimatePluginTool

Download and install UltimatePluginTool from the Ultimate Outsider downloads page. If you accept the default installation options, UltimatePluginTool will launch automatically once setup is complete. (Otherwise you should find shortcuts for it on your desktop and your Start menu.)

You should also make sure to quit any DAWs, plugin hosts, or Native Instruments software before you continue.

3. Scan for duplicate plugins

If you have multiple copies of different versions of plugins scattered about your various plugin search paths, DAWs and plugin hosts can get confused, loading an outdated version of the plugin even after you've installed updates. On the UltimatePluginTool Start page, select Find duplicate VST plugins and click Next.



If you are running 64-bit Windows, you'll have a choice of whether to search for 32-bit or 64-bit plugins, since those files are normally installed in different locations. Choose which plugin type you'd like to check for first, and then make sure your desired plugin paths are listed under Plugin folders.

The first time you run this wizard, UltimatePluginTool tries to detect some common plugin locations on your system. If you use different folders than those that UltimatePluginTool finds, you can make the appropriate changes now with the Add New and Remove buttons. The program maintains different folder lists for 32-bit and 64-bit plugins.

The program discovered some plugin folders on this computer. If you keep folders in other locations, use Add New to locate and include them in the search.

Click Next. UltimatePluginTool will search your plugin folders for any duplicate files, or for unsupported files (for example, 64-bit plugins in your 32-bit plugins folder). Once the scan is complete, some statistics will appear in the Search status portion of the screen, and if any duplicates or unsupported files are found, their names will appear in the Duplicate files and Unexpected files lists below.

The results of a scan for 32-bit duplicates. Since 'show duplicates' is unchecked, only files with duplicates are displayed at the moment.
  1. Select a filename in the Duplicate files list to see more information about the specific files discovered.
  2. In the above example we can tell that the first file in the details list is the older one by its Date and Version number. Selecting a file in the details list enables the three action buttons on the right.
  3. To remove the outdated file, click Delete, then click Yes when asked whether you would like to proceed.
Remember to re-run this wizard if you are running 64-bit Windows, in case you still need to scan for 32-bit or 64-bit plugins. See the included user guide for more information about the Find Duplicate VST Plugins wizard.

4. Look for wrong or broken file paths

Once you're sure there aren't any duplicate copies of your 32-bit or 64-bit plugins in your various plugin folders, re-launch UltimatePluginTool or navigate back to the Start page. Select Manage installed Native Instruments products, and then click Next.



Note: If you have a large number of Native Instruments products installed, or if you have some very old 32-bit-only products installed, the product scan might take a minute or two the first time you run it. Once the scan is complete, it will populate the "Product information" list with all products discovered on your system.

To check for file location problems, make to check the options to show apps and plugins, content libraries, bundles, drivers and utilities, and broken folder items. Also make sure to uncheck Show valid folder items, like in the following screenshot:

The above settings will display only products with detected file path problems.
In the above example, UltimatePluginTool discovered that it couldn't find the Kontakt 5 plugin in the folder where it's supposed to reside. This happened because we just used the duplicates finder to delete the outdated version of the plugin that had been located in that folder. Even though we know there is a recent version of Kontakt 5 in our plugin search paths, if the plugin isn't located in the exact folder specified on this screen, then Komplete Kontrol and Maschine won't be able to find the plugin if you try to load any Kontakt instruments with them.

To select the correct folder, click the Options button next to the folder you need to change. This opens the Change Folder dialog:


This dialog lists all the folders that all currently installed Native Instruments products (including the current one) are already using. If you see the folder you want already listed, just select it and then click the Use for (product) only button. In our case, the folder we need isn't listed, so we need to click Select Another Folder and locate the folder. Once the folder's selected, we can click Use for (product) only to continue.



After you select a different folder, UltimatePluginTool re-checks the paths. As we can see here, we selected the correct path, and we have the latest versions specified for the application, 32-bit plugin, and 64-bit plugin files.


5. Check product bundle associations (Komplete Kontrol)

The Komplete Kontrol software is explicitly designed to only work with Komplete 9 or Komplete 10, and this requirement has some side-effects that surprise some Komplete 9 and 10 owners.

Consider this example: Reaktor 5 is available as a standalone product, and has also been in every Komplete release since 2005- however if you didn't use a Komplete 9 or 10 installer to install or update Reaktor 5 on your PC, Komplete Kontrol will not work with your existing copy.

You can encounter this problem even if you are a legitimate Komplete 9 or 10 owner and you've used the Komplete installer to install other products on the same PC. Many Komplete owners who already have previous versions installed on their PCs choose not to install the pre-existing products when installing a new Komplete version. Up until the release of Komplete Kontrol, this was the fastest way to safely install new versions of Komplete. (And sometimes the ONLY way, due to the way the Komplete installers calculate disk space required before allowing you to proceed with setup.)

Unfortunately, it is now necessary to perform a complete installation of Komplete 9 or 10 in order to make sure all your applications and libraries are recognized by Komplete Kontrol as belonging to the supported bundles. This is because the Komplete installers are special. Even though the Reaktor 5 you bought in 2005 is technically exactly the same program as the version included in Komplete 10 (assuming you've kept up with your Service Center updates), the Komplete 10 installer associates any product it installs or upgrades with that specific bundle. All Komplete installers do this, but it wasn't until the release of Komplete Kontrol that this fact actually mattered.

Anyway, here's how you can use UltimatePluginTool to determine if this is what's happening on your computer.

On the Start page, select Manage installed Native Instruments products, and then click Next.


Once the product scan is complete, make sure to select the options to show apps and plugins, content libraries, valid path items, and broken path items. Now any products you select items in the Product information list that are associated with a Native Instruments bundle will show some information in the Bundle field, like this:



Beginning with Komplete 8, there is some overlap between the "Ultimate" bundles and the regular Komplete releases. For example, as shown in the screenshot above, Abbey Road 50s Drummer is only available in Komplete 10 Ultimate, so that's what appears in the Bundle field in UltimatePluginTool. However, if we had selected Battery 4- which is included in both Komplete 10 and Komplete 10 Ultimate, then the Bundle field would just read "Komplete 10" even though this computer has the full Komplete 10 Ultimate package installed. This shouldn't be an issue, though- it's the version number that matters to Komplete Kontrol.

If you have Komplete 9 or 10 (regular or Ultimate) installed, and a product you select on this screen is blank or is associated with an earlier version of Komplete, then you'll need to re-run the Komplete 9 or 10 installer to update your installation and associate it with your bundle in order to get it working properly in Komplete Kontrol.

Note: Misleading Warnings in Maschine and Komplete Kontrol

Both Komplete Kontrol and Maschine will report "could not load plug-in" even if the preset you tried to open isn't directly associated with a plugin. For example, Rise & Hit is not itself a plugin; it's a Kontakt instrument. But if there's something wrong with your Kontakt configuration, this is what happens when you try to open a Rise & Hit preset in Maschine:


To make it easier to troubleshoot, here's a list of all the products that appear in Maschine and Komplete Kontrol that aren't standalone products. So if you get an error while trying to launch one of them, remember to also check the settings of the actual plugin (Kontakt or Reaktor) they're associated with for problems:

Kontakt Instruments supported in Maschine and Komplete Kontrol

  • Abbey Road 50s Drummer
  • Abbey Road 60s Drummer/Drums
  • Abbey Road 70s Drummer/Drums
  • Abbey Road 80s Drummer/Drums
  • Abbey Road Modern Drummer/Drums
  • Abbey Road Vintage Drummer
  • Action Strikes
  • Action Strings
  • Alicia's Keys
  • Balinese Gamelan
  • Berlin Grand
  • Cuba
  • Damage
  • Drum Lab
  • Evolve Mutations
  • Evolve Mutations 2
  • Evolve R2
  • George Duke Soul Treasures
  • Kinetic Metal
  • Maschine Drum Selection
  • NY Grand
  • Retro Machines
  • Rise and Hit
  • Funk Guitarist
  • Jay-Bass
  • MM-Bass
  • MM-Bass Amped
  • Pre-Bass
  • Pre-Bass Amped
  • Rickenbacker
  • Vintage Keys
  • Session Horns
  • Session Horns Pro
  • Session Strings Pro
  • Studio Drummer
  • The Gentleman
  • The Giant
  • The Grandeur
  • The Maverick
  • Upright Piano
  • Vienna Grand
  • Vintage Organs
  • West Africa

Reaktor Ensembles supported in Maschine and Komplete Kontrol

  • Kontour
  • Monark
  • Polyplex
  • Prism
  • Razor
  • Rounds
  • Skanner XT
  • Spark

Final Thoughts

I have some features in the works that should make solving these problems even simpler, so stay tuned. This should at least be enough to help you root-cause the various issues you're having and know what to do to fix them.

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4 comments:

Dan PC said...

Hi, I saw your comments on an NI Forum as well as on this website. I'm not finding any posts that look like the same problem I'm having. I'm on a MacBook Pro, but it may not matter:

I recently transferred my hard drive data to a newer MBP using Time Machine. I tried to open Reaktor 5 in a Logic Pro X session but keep getting a screen requiring me to run in DEMO mode, BUY or ACTIVATE from the Service Center. All my products are activated except for some that were not purchased through NI (freebies from echocollective). Unfortunately, NI does not seem to recognize that for some reason. I get this specific message: You have installed an update that requires activation. Please use the Service Center to re-activate. I don't want to update everything because of the amount of space required to do so. This was not a problem on my previous machine.

Any thoughts as to why this might be? Thanks...

tobias said...

Posted already on NI forums but for what it's worth:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU etc etc etc !!!!!!!

I had innocently moved some plugins around in what seemed like routine housekeeping to me, and was basically at the point of bashing my head against the wall trying to get my variously broken and dysfunctional NI products to talk to each other, even though all standalones were installed and working, and my main host (Sonar Platinum) could access all plugins individually. Komplete Kontrol was dead in the water and NI's spectacularly uninformative Plugin Tool seemed to do nothing whatsoever. Projects I had done that used KK were broken and would not load. Then I stumbled on your elegant, simple tool which gave me ACTUAL INFORMATION about what was installed, what was broken, how to get the paths corrected, and lo and behold, my pain is ended. KK can do what it's supposed to do, my projects can load, and I can work. I am in your debt!

Ultimate Outsider said...

@tobias - Really glad it worked out for you! For what it's worth, I've got another update underway. Should be out in a week or so.

Konstrukt said...

Hi Dan PC,

I've the same problem at the moment. Did you find a sollution?

Thank you,

All the best,

Han